Sheep Tag Community

almost 7 years is not "new waver"... if this was the NFL you'd almost be retired....




also drew and i would play extensive games of 8 or 6 vs 2(him and I) or w/e the map would allow. was fun.
brought in some people. some had no interest.

its not that old wavers feel its useless to play public. its just that we are OLD. most of us are full time students hell some of us are even full time employees some place. we don't have time to sit down recruit people. we want to log on and play when we know games are and with people we can enjoy playing with. not people we have to carry.


*Comment Section meaning don't take this **** too hard*

the new wave open? open to what 30 seconds of sheep then dying cause they got bored or want to do the "sickest SHlT"

yes they mocked you for your game play ^^ yea we'll go with that ^^

if this was so dramatic for you how can you say "maybe magoo" wouldn't you remember it vividly?

also you mention sadistic and my name is not even in this post WTF 

almost 7 years IS new waver.  If we still have old wavers such as drew, shoop etc. then people like cel and i are considered relatively new.

8 vs 2 isn't what brought me into st.  4v4 did.

Yes you do find it useless to play public games.  All you ever look for is private games, ed.  you can't refute that.

You mentioned that they mocked my gameplay, but that isn't relevant for you to talk about.  I was mentioning why they mocked me affected my gameplay and personality negatively which is a drawback of the ST community.

Your claim for being busy is irrelevant.  You play WC, and you play ST, so there is no excuse to not play public sheep tag games except for your own enjoyment.  This was exactly my point.

I suggest you stop using such a negative viewpoint, ed.  You're very counterproductive in your arguments.

Yea mappy ^^ I think I might've had some influence in that.

Right now I'm the only 'old' sheeptagger still active besides CMK, and I'm the one person in this community that's actually hosting sheeptag games purely for public, so what you're saying is not completely right.

What Ed said, about the oldies having no time to play is true, though tbh, it seems like they lost interest mostly. Sheeptag nowadays isn't as it was in the 'old' days, and they miss that / think it's not as attractive to play anymore.

The negative attitude is something that defines the sheeptag community, and I personally loath it most of all. Clan SoR that I just created will for example not allow any negative attitudes in. But yea, sheeptaggers in general are idiots with a brain capacity of a newt, so violent / agressive behaviour is something to be expected.

I have posted and asked for people to host more public games before, and I continiously ask people to do so on Bnet, but so far there's nobody else trying to carry the load with me. One 15 minute session with pub players can already make a difference if several people do it, so the 'having no time' thing is bullshit. You want to enjoy proper sheeptag, then you should feel responsible for keeping it alive aswell.

"almost 7 years IS new waver.  If we still have old wavers such as drew, shoop etc. then people like cel and i are considered relatively new."
7 years.... thats 2555 days... 7 years is almost as long as it takes to be a doctor... 7 years is 7 winters... i dont consider that new.

i never said 8vs2 brought you in.... i never said it was the best way. i said that's what drew and I did. it worked to get some people and some people didn't want in to the clan....

"Yes you do find it useless to play public games.  All you ever look for is private games, ed.  you can't refute that. " 
interesting that you can tell me what i care about..... lol

You mentioned that they mocked my gameplay, but that isn't relevant for you to talk about.  I was mentioning why they mocked me affected my gameplay and personality negatively which is a drawback of the ST community.
tollison- how old are you? sticks and stones.

"Your claim for being busy is irrelevant.  You play WC, and you play ST, so there is no excuse to not play public sheep tag games except for your own enjoyment.  This was exactly my point. "
lol how is there no excuse?? "sorry professor i was recruiting pubs to build farms to defend against wolves." or " yea i cant work from 3-10 that is prime recruiting time cause that is when kids get out of school"

"I suggest you stop using such a negative viewpoint, ed.  You're very counterproductive in your arguments."
was not negative... if you are talking about the section i told you not to take too hard. well then clearly you didn't listen.

"I'm sorry I shouldn't be talking about old wave and new wave."
its a neat point i just don't agree with your time frame but really does it matter..

"The people who are virtuous in ST don't play to recruit players.  They play to play.  It's a circus with no audience. "
virtuous... people recruiting does not make some one better than some one who wants to only play vs the best of the best.


I was showing you why mentioning 8v2 was pointless to bring up.  the 4v4, the competitive games, are what attracted me to sheep tag.  That is where the circus displays their main attraction."
when you say competitive game do you mean like when you were a pub on ultimate map that is what attracted you to st?
or you talking about 4v4 on revo format that was used before 3v5 became the norm?

"Yes I can tell you what you care about by your actions.  Common sense, Ed."
again i do not find it useless play public games.... just cause i don't do it does not mean i don't care. i am a full time student and employed so forgive me when i log on i don't want to play a game of GRR map. i want to play with the cmks the drews the Grims of the world. which brings me  back to main reason the drews cele and i dont recruit. we are busy.

"Sticks and stones is irrelevant.  I was young and emotional at the time and I let people run all over me.  Not anymore.  The point is that your attitude is discouraging to new players.  Kids don't want to help their parents if they call them dumb, retarded, stupid etc."
my attitude to the brand new players is actually very nice... its when people have been playing for 7 years and then die 1st 9/10 times/afk as wolf i get annoyed.
secondly 99% of my flames/comments/opinions/thoughts are in whispers. CMK seems to enjoy them ^^ so they would never hear if i had anything bad to say. perception of me is not reality.

"Try to avoid name calling, ed.  It's a naive and immature mistake.  I'm not a professor so don't call me that.  You are clearly trying to be disrespectful and it isn't appreciated. "
clever? just brush off valid points. its like defusing a bully with humor. well done i guess


"Ed, you have time to play public sheep tag games with other good sheep tag friends, but you choose to play private sheep tag games instead.  You can't recruit new players in a private match.  !+!-2."
ok let me break this down in an example outside of st.
lets say you like racing cars. but you only can race cars for 1-2 hours a day.
so when that window opens should i take my car around the block causally for a few laps. (pub games)
or would u like to go as fast as you can vs the best drivers in the game (private games)
if i had a million dollars or still lived at my parents house or was still in high school i would pub more but when i log for my small window of play time id like to play vs the best of the best.

"Do not make fun of my previous gameplay.  It is counterproductive to my skill.  It would be better if you tried to help me.  You can't be taught if you're being slandered instead.  Just like with everyone else.  All of the ST community except for a few SLANDER ALL SHEEP TAGGERS FOR THEIR MISTAKES, BUT DO NOTHING TO HELP THEM.  No tips are given from ed, drew, cel, shoop, and many other players.  All of you would rather bash sheep taggers which makes you all horrible and unfit to be teachers. "
want my advice. set small goals for yourself. average game clock is 10 minutes. do what you need to do to get to 9 minutes. then after u reach 9 minute then so on till it reaches zero.

"There is no surprise that the ST community deminished.  There are less players in WC than ever before just because a lot of people quit for their own personal reason, and WC3 isn't a mainstream game to buy, but one factor of the tiny ST community we have and have had is because of its own players.  I've seen many people leave the st community because they simply got BORED of st.  It's mad boring to be gawked at for your skill by much better players.  Those lesser players MODELED AFTER THE TOP DOGS and the top dogs are PUSHING THEM DOWN. ?"
to say this is main reason would be wrong but it does not help -- correct.


"Activity of the ST community is low because of a failure of leadership and less wc activity.  Thats just it."
failure of leadership... you can bring a sheep to water but you cant make it drink.
and less active is true. prime st time was 2006 most people would say. that is 7 almost 8 years ago. people moved on. peoples priorities changes. this would/should of happened no matter how great this game is. life changes.

"This is what I meant by old wave vs new wave.  The old wave of players don't care for new wave players nor care to bring any in at all.  They want their precious public game fix."
i think you mean private game fix..... i think. idk so i wont comment as i am unclear what you mean

"The world of ST is now solely in Europe.  East and West have died and any attempts in colonizing Asia has failed.  So ed, if you want to see more activity in ST then go play public games in Europe."
with bots as good as they are now. realms are pointless. OK ill go play public games. you go to class and work for me.

"Europe = the last stand."
Europe just to happen to have the host bots. realms are pointless

@Spoofy, I bought warcraft III reign of chaos a bit over half way through 2002. So it was out before then lol.