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FaceOfMelinda

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Admins/Mods on Trial
« on: November 09, 2013, 11:15:33 pm »
Currently I'm the only administrator and do 99% of the work.

Nomapgrid/mapgrid = is emergency/backup mod in case I'm not around to deal with spam attacks/rampages etc.



Anything you feel we could do better? Or have done wrong? Let me know here.

The current system I use for post-deletion is that I trashcan threads that are low quality and I delete posts that are blatant spam. It's too much work to move every single spam post I find and that is why I've chosen to delete them instead. The only posts that have been deleted are those that (typically) are worse or at best equal to what is currently found in the trashcan.

I'm often asked to delete more posts on the forum but not everyone is Shakespeare and in the end we want everyone to participate to the best of their ability (which is going to vary).

This thread is not for chakra-ideas (e.g., change font size from 11.8 to 11.75 etc) and forum council/elder scrolls materials. We can discuss that in the other threads. Forum council idea = I would need a proposal (plan) etc rather than just baak baaks.

So yeah, fire away if you have any opinions about post deletion/spam/general forum queries. 






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Re: Admins/Mods on Trial
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2013, 11:20:09 pm »
Give me admin for one day and I 100% promise to not do any moderation, account deletion, etc. All I'll do is install mods that fix some issues and change settings. IE, removing filters, making deleted posts go into trashcan, blah blah. If I do moderation you can exile me from community and eat my cookies.

I've been in this community forever and I have a clear history of not doing grandiose evil. I might have Stalined some forums or w/e, but I never destroyed clans, etc, etc.

If not me, make Exa admin for a brief moment.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2013, 11:22:48 pm by Chakra »

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Re: Admins/Mods on Trial
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2013, 11:30:08 pm »
Why dont you reply to amirs counciltopic Sidey?

http://sheeptag.createaforum.com/community-discussion/forum-council/

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Re: Admins/Mods on Trial
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2013, 11:41:11 pm »
I agree, chakra would not do anything to the well being of the fourms, and he has been the moderator of many fourms, he has the most experience and can do the best overall job for editing / making fourms look more appealing.

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Re: Admins/Mods on Trial
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2013, 08:51:10 am »
Everything have worked fine ! Expect some spammers and idiotic threads, But that happens  !:)
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Re: Admins/Mods on Trial
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2013, 08:13:13 pm »
If you want to affect and change the post deletion policy on this forum post here with your suggestions.

no point calling me hitler when I carry out the policies ive asked you all for input on and not received complaints

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Re: Admins/Mods on Trial
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2013, 08:18:49 pm »
I don't think mods should moderate their own threads (unless via report by some other user). This spells bias.

This means encourage users to use report functionality and to promote at least a second, active moderator.

Also, this clearly looks like a SMF forum, meaning it supports near unlimited mods? If so, there are many that will replace the default delete function with one that will move posts to trashcan (and posts deleted from the same thread will be concatenated).

Edit: chatcraft.net had SMF, and our deleted posts went into the trashcan.

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Re: Admins/Mods on Trial
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2013, 08:20:06 pm »
Whenever you remove posts, move them into Trashcan in a seperate topic.
Always write WHY you remove the post.

"Zero content" isn't even an explanation.
Who decides what's content and what isn't?
1 liner is no explanation aswell.

I saw alot of 1 liners in this forum not being removed but I noticed the same amount of more than 1 liner posts being removed for the reason "1 liner".

#disgusting hitler
#ban sidey everywhere
#create a new forum

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Re: Admins/Mods on Trial
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2013, 08:35:59 pm »
There is a certain bias of course, but perhaps not what you think. I do tend to moderate certain threads I participate in more than others simply because of my participation itself (more attention on said thread). I also moderate threads differently based on the discussion value of the topic. If an OP puts a lot of effort into a thread I'm going to moderate it harder than a regular thread.

There is no function to move individual posts. I have to move the topic or split the topic. You can try to figure out a way by creating another forum at this host. I 100% support that method and would use it if I could.

The cut-off point I use for point deletion is that of the quality of posts found in the trashcan forum. I have NEVER deleted a post that is above quality of the trashcan. Any bias would be in deleting/not deleting posts that are of trashcan quality. I don't think that's a big problem.

Adding another moderator would be fine, although it introduces different post deletion standards and more contingencies. Also, I think another moderator - if I allowed that person to freely moderate - would be a lot stricter than I am. I let SO MUCH go by (for better or worse).

Also note that Jeanmii and others were outright lying in the Disgusting People thread about their posts being deleted - I posted the log even. Just be weary in what you believe. Like I said, I have NEVER removed a post that was above the quality found in the trashcan.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2013, 08:42:05 pm by FaceOfMelinda »

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Re: Admins/Mods on Trial
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2013, 12:19:52 am »
Youre a disgusting liar. I should have taken proofs that my post was missing and then it miracly came back (after I flamed you)
Nice forum owner we got here, removing posts for nothing.

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Re: Admins/Mods on Trial
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2013, 12:29:48 am »
Next time you decide to lie you should perhaps construct a lie that is technically possible.

Like I said, anyone is free to make another forum at the same host and try it out. Or ask Chakras, I'm sure that will work too ^^

You lack the IQ to lie; I'd try another strategy lol



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Re: Admins/Mods on Trial
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2013, 04:45:28 am »
Looking at this objectively, I think jean-mii must have overlooked his own post (it was pretty small after all, and there is over 4 pages of meaningless blabber), and thought sidey deleted it. Sidey thinks jean-mii is trying to lie to discredit him, when in reality it's probably just a misunderstanding.

I'd have to check with chakra or someone that knows the capaability of this forum, but on the forums I've moderated I've never heard of a function that allows you to put someone's post back where it originally was after it was deleted or sent to the trash.

I agree with chakra though, you shouldn't really be moderating your own threads, because situations like this will continue to happen. If anything it will save you face to have someone else moderating your threads. Especially when you're making some bold declarations, and people get emotional and take offense.

I, of course, nominate myself seeing as I've been moderator on mav forums (save once), sheeptag.net, and shoop's forums all without anyone having any issues with me. Either way though, doesn't matter to me. I'll continue to be one of the most productive posters on this forum :P
« Last Edit: November 17, 2013, 04:50:53 am by Celestial_One »

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Re: Admins/Mods on Trial
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2013, 02:32:50 pm »
Yeye I'l consider putting you as mod CelEs - the workload has gone up a lot lately with the increase in forum activity.

But I really don't think there is a problem with me moderating my own threads because of the safe-guards I've put in place. That is, the only posts I ever touch are those with a quality at the level or below the level of the trashcan. I don't catch all low quality posts and I let some stay (because sometimes they have a hint of a point etc) but if you're in the business of making low quality posts you should expect your posts to be deleted. I would completely understand if I deleted even a single post that was of a high/decent quality but I haven't done that.   

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Re: Admins/Mods on Trial
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2013, 10:40:49 pm »
Update:

All deleted posts can now be seen in the trashcan.

Feel free to review all deleted posts there from today onwards!

 

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