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glow

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Best items for wolf?
« on: May 20, 2014, 10:20:46 pm »
I always get scythe first to double my gold intake, and then i get c16 to 2 hit aura protected farms

ive been flexible as of late, but it seems i want to get 3 c 45s to 1 hit farm.

what are all of your optimal builds?

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Re: Best items for wolf?
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2014, 01:16:56 am »
I buy golems, and that's pretty much it.

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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2014, 04:49:48 am »
Scythe is really nice with new map. Endur and drums are nice team items. Depending on who's sheep or what items have been gotten I usually go golem or triple bomber as well.

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Re: Best items for wolf?
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2014, 02:53:04 pm »
Rogue knows my golems all to well :)

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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2014, 07:34:36 pm »
i suppose using a golem or triple bombers can be effective, but i hardly die to a golem or a bombard of bombers, so if players play like i do then it's unreasonable to waste my gold on golems or bombers, but if they play like hawkys it would be reasonable to use a golem.

indeed they are extraordinary, rogue!

thank you all for the insight; except for hawkys.  quit being an attention hog, dude.

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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2014, 07:56:37 pm »
Its the choice that makes the game so interesting. Golems are always seen as a fast way to end games. Everyone thinks they're good at goleming but its quite easy for me to take a second as sheep to check inventories and see who's got one. I immediately aim to bait them. Even without that, people with good delay or just play safe in general can easy dodge them.  That being said, golem is good option even if you don't get kill. You can prevent a sheep from escaping on one side, use it to help middle, and for advanced tactics provide it with an item to surprise sheep.

Pooling money for one hit/gloves/cloaks will for sure extend the game a couple of minutes as everyone saves up money. People get impatient and go with the quicker option. Its better now that iron was removed.

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Re: Best items for wolf?
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2014, 08:11:11 pm »
I agree golem is a nice item until someone uses that redirect!  polar redirected my golem yesterday -.-.  how do you do that by the way?


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Re: Best items for wolf?
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2014, 08:16:55 pm »
I agree golem is a nice item until someone uses that redirect!  polar redirected my golem yesterday -.-.  how do you do that by the way?
You attack something as a sheep.

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Re: Best items for wolf?
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2014, 09:04:07 pm »
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its quite easy for me to take a second as sheep to check inventories and see who's got one
You can't view inventories in RoC...

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You attack something as a sheep.
You must attack something that is an enemy of the attacker. I.e., your own farm or an ally's farm. Attacking them certainly doesn't work. ^^

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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2014, 10:08:33 pm »
i think the hostbot hosts a tft version whilst on RoC.  IDK how but I think it does; therefore we're able to see inventories while on roc./

ty for clarifying redirection, chakra :D

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Re: Best items for wolf?
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2014, 12:33:03 am »
It has nothing to do with hostbots but has to do with beer's new maps.
He made so we can see inventories just like on TFT, dno how tho.

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Re: Best items for wolf?
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2014, 02:49:04 am »
In 3v5, Best stratagy I've seen so far is at beginning gold 1 wolf for endur, then work from there to either keep golding that wolf for golem and stuff or get individual stuff like scythe.

2v4 - Golems are usually good to just save up and use if sheep last that long. Golding players who are in better position to the wolfing isolation is good to.

I usually go golems in smaller games, while in larger usually just send all my gold away all the time to certain wolves, or ask for gold (Cloaks mainly + scythe and optional golem eventually.)

I'm often considered as not the best golemer, but this isn't true as I usually do a good job with them unless something happens (A recent memory of this was I went to do a diagonal golem and another wolf blocked me and I lagged and didn't realize).

In big games cooperation skills and mid skills I would say I probably the most important, aside from the other wolfing skills that are important and basic like isolation's and holding sides.
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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2014, 06:37:23 am »
You can now actually @ Chakra. I don't know how Beer did but viewing inventories was added into map a couple of updates ago.

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Re: Best items for wolf?
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2014, 08:14:50 am »
Its under game interface changed a 0 to 1

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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2014, 03:40:05 am »
Who buys golems more than a second before you have to use them?

There aren't many interesting item choices anymore.  The games are shorter, and you start at 2 hits, so claws are relatively less important.  Scythe is the best option, if there were 5v5 10-20 minute games, but there aren't. 

Golems are now only a short term purchase because iron golems were removed (?).  Still they're by far the best purchase in most short games.  Even if most people can dodge golems, st has always been about going after the weak link. 

Pooling teammate for endurance is always a solid opening though.

Ppl don't utilize speed pots enough is my one advice.  Besides the obvious chasing after someone running, they make it much easier to hold a side, or two small sides, and generally deter sheep from trying anything.  As cheap as they are, they're often a good purchase, especially if the game is likely to end before you could save up for something bigger.

 

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