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Alph4bet

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Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
« on: November 03, 2013, 06:39:30 pm »
I would like to make a proposal to ban Hawkeys for two days from attending games and NamikaziMinato(for one game) (The reason two days being is because they probably don't know about the cut downs on game ruining, this will be a warning, next time it will be a week)
All of the reasons to place a Ban/Probationary period upon someone can be found here.

In the replay(located here) you will see NMCDO starting to do sick run st at 34:50.
At 35:00 NamikaziMinato Paused
At 35:01 NamikaziMinato paused yet again(You will see a black line effect on the replay).
At 35:07 and 35:08 Hawkeys had paused twice(Once again the black line effect on the replay is visible).
At 35:13 Hawkeys then saved the game(Black line effect visible and the bot lets you know that he saved the game by stating it).
At 35:15 NamikaziMinato saved the game(Black line effect visible and the bot lets you know that he saved the game by stating it).
At 35:18 NMCDO was in the clear and was past Shepherds on his way to save in middle(Due to the fact they were trying to pause/save as oppose to play the game).
At 35:20 NMCDO was ejected from the game by NamikaziMinato. When on the verge of saving myself(dark green).

For those who watch the whole replay NMCDO did some decent run tag throughout the game. I failed(lag is no excuse I shouldn't have played that badly even in 1 - 2 sec delay).

I also would like NamikaziMinato Warned by CMK/Spoofy/(whoever owns sor_bot) to not eject anyone like that from a game again. He should be acquainted with the rules if he wishes to use the bot to host, next offence if done deliberately like this was. Should be a admin removal.

I will add Hawkeys name to a "Probationary/Banned User List". If you find the evidence insufficient(you shouldn't), I will immediately remove his name.

Replay can be found here

Edit: Hawkeys pointed out something in my rules and he's right, therefore NamikaziMinato, only banned for one game. Hawkeys still banned for two.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2013, 07:37:45 pm by Alph4bet »

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Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2013, 07:00:01 pm »
It was the last fair, we were all joking around (I don't consider sheeps running out of mass to get runtag material a real game) so the the evidence is insufficient and stop being a baby. It was 2v3 with 70 gold i believe (also not a real game) ghod also left without it being fair but was there a ban for him? No, stop targeting certain individuals because you felt cheated at a game where we were all messing around.

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Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2013, 07:03:39 pm »
and according to your rules :
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whether you are a leader in this community or Hawkeys, if you deliberately ruin a game and everyone agrees that you did, you're not allowed in the remake, A short 1 game ban.

U went against your own rules because it should be a short 1 game ban. I make the proposal to ban Alph4bet for not following his own rules for a period of 2 days.

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Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2013, 07:34:54 pm »
and according to your rules :
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whether you are a leader in this community or Hawkeys, if you deliberately ruin a game and everyone agrees that you did, you're not allowed in the remake, A short 1 game ban.

U went against your own rules because it should be a short 1 game ban. I make the proposal to ban Alph4bet for not following his own rules for a period of 2 days.
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Midterm bans, Two days - One week bans
In order for this to happen you need to have repeat offences of game ruining and ruined the game more than once and are currently a casual game ruiner.
You are a previous offender. Two days and it is just a little ban Hawkeys,I know you just got unbanned. But look, don't do it? How would you like it if we did that to you while you were run sting?

Edit: Oh and Ghod. Asked for permission he did not leave the game until we said "ok if you really need to go".
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3. Leaving before fair is done, If a few Sheep haven't had a turn in the game, and someone has to go, that person is allowed to leave, provided that he tells the rest of the people in the game and is genuin. That person will not be allowed in the remake though, because that person had to leave. Otherwise if it isn't a scenario like that one then you can be reported.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2013, 07:52:34 pm by Alph4bet »

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Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2013, 08:10:56 pm »
I am not a previous offender since u made these rules yesterday. You can keep me on your "scoreboard" if you like, none the less we were all having fun including nmcdo. Its a shame you didn't

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Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2013, 09:06:52 pm »
I must agree with hawkys on this one. None of us ( i think ) were really caring about this.

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Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2013, 10:32:13 pm »
Exactly, no one took that round serious. #FreeHaWkys and thanks for stating your opinion 008 :D

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Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2013, 01:42:43 am »
I must agree with hawkys on this one. None of us ( i think ) were really caring about this.
Exactly, no one took that round serious. #FreeHaWkys and thanks for stating your opinion 008 :D
I personally didn't care, I think NMCDO at the time, definitely cared because after the game he said "Did I really get disconnected" to me in a whisper. I was like no, You got booted. He then showed frustration. It was disgusting to be honest. If nmcdo says he didn't care, topic closed and you're taken off the list.

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Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2013, 05:02:11 am »
We should not forgot that we play sheep tag for fun. Of course he was frustrated at first but 10 second after he was already in another game. It was the last fair and they were doing it for fun. We must consider the context of the game before banning everyone... 

For example, from adam's video, you can clearly see cmk trying to tk his allies for fun. I do not think that they were saying: Yee he's trying to tk me COOL. Still, that tk is in the video because it was huge fun to watch.


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Re: Hawkeys and NamikaziMinato's Two day Ban proposal
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2013, 08:45:58 am »
Honestly.. if it was a 2v3. I think this should be one warn for both players if not 2 warns but even in such a "non-serious" context this behaviour shouldn't be tolerated. I don't think anyone should take it upon themselves to kick ANYONE in game. A votekick should be applied and only when everyone in the game agrees that the player who is blatantly ruining deserved to be ejected from the game. I know it's a fine line and most kids have their own definition of what constitutes ruining. Polar for example thinks "bad play" is ruining.

It should be 3 warns before you lose host access on whatever bot, get a 1 day ban and then after one month you can reapply for hostbot access. You kind of messed up mike. We were playing and you've made a proposal to ban warn HaWkys and Namikaze and then banned them before anyone could review it. Polar takes this opportunity to kick HaWkys and let Namikaze stay. I was fine with both playing. The hitler era of hostbots are coming to an end and this was kind of lame lol.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2013, 09:12:26 am by koala »

 

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