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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2013, 09:52:34 pm »
US has much greater military defense, yet ranks 99th in peacefulness while Iceland is at 1st. :D

Ye US! Where you randomly get shot on the street, but at least we won't get attacked by some country we've bombed a thousand times!

Edit: The US, where you are eight times more likely to be killed by the police than a terrorist. :D
« Last Edit: September 29, 2013, 09:55:11 pm by Chakra »

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2013, 10:02:25 pm »
The US, a place where you don't have to worry about mass invasions and can protect yourself from police and criminals efficiently, and you have more of a say than any country as to where you can live :D.  All you have to do is want it and BAM you can get it.

US > Iceland still in opportunity and being greater overall country.

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2013, 10:22:23 pm »
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where you don't have to worry about mass invasions
Icelandic people don't worry about invasions. Who's going to invade them? The US? ^^ Why would you invade Iceland? Can't export their energy.

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protect yourself from police and criminals efficiently
If this was true, why are Americans so much more likely to be killed by police and criminals than most other developed countries?


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you have more of a say than any country as to where you can live
Do you mean like.. climate? If so, I agree. US probably has most varied climate for living. But leaving/entering the country is obviously not as free as it is in the Schengen area.

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opportunity
It was already proved that the greatest determiner of success is the wealth of your parents in the US. No one in their right mind calls it "opportunity" if the conditions of your success is dependent on your parents.

A new report from the Pew Economic Mobility Project zeroes in on one major factor: In America there’s a stronger link between parents’ education levels and children’s success than in any other country researchers investigated.
The report notes the size of the achievement gap: “In the United States, children with high-educated parents scored in the 73rd percentile on average, compared with children who have low-educated parents and tended to score in the 27th percentile.” The report concludes that other countries have more successful policies and institutions that have helped close this achievement gap, giving children from less-educated families a greater chance of success.

As I don't have stats for Iceland, you can't conclude the US has greater opportunity. All we know is it has less opportunity than most of Western Europe. ^^

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greater overall country
By what criteria? We've already found that the US scores worse in education, peace, happiness, opportunity, etc. Only thing the US tops at is believers in angels and prison population.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2013, 10:24:18 pm by Chakra »

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2013, 10:29:20 pm »
Read up on your history, Chakra.  From the birth of all these civilizations to now.

Which country has the most successors of poor social locations?  You guessed it right, the USA baby :D

Examples aren't needed to be given.  You can look that up yourself.  You should know this.

BTW, if you live in the US you can choose your social location.  It's just a matter of trying to get there is your pathway.  Those that choose to not go towards a social location = most likely won't get there.

If Iceland is so great, Chakra, then why don't you live there?  You're allowed to go.  Oh thats right!! You have more opportunity in the USA :DDD

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2013, 10:40:12 pm »
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Which country has the most successors of poor social locations?
I don't argue the US was never the best country to live, I argue it is not today. The past proof of the current. I've proven you have more opportunity at economic success in other countries than in the US. You have only made unverified/unverifiable claims.

I imagine when looking at raw numbers of poor people who have become rich, the area with the most people would be Africa, by virtue of people being there for millions of years.

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Examples aren't needed to be given.  You can look that up yourself.  You should know this.
IE, "I don't need evidence, I just make random bull**** claims."

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if you live in the US you can choose your social location.  It's just a matter of trying to get there is your pathway.  Those that choose to not go towards a social location = most likely won't get there.
So you're saying that if you are poor and want to become rich, you can do it in the US? Then why is there so low economic mobility? Everyone in the US just likes being poor, not having healthcare, etc? So basically Americans are just less motivated than those from Denmark?

Your motivation for success is directly tied to your socio-economic status in America. If you are poor, you live in a ghetto, your family is less likely to push you to achieve something, your neighborhood encourages you to not succeed, you go to horrible schools, etc. Sure, if you are truly motivated to succeed, you may have a high chance at it (note, not becoming super rich, but wealthy), but this is true anywhere. The problem is everywhere else you are more likely to have the motivation to succeed.

There are multiple reasons I remain in the US. The biggest is I've already made countries in my city: I have family, friends, boyfriend, etc. I'd have to start over if I moved. Second, I was born in an anglosphere country, meaning I know English, are accustomed to anglosphere customs, etc. I'd have to adjust to a Norse country.

Your rate of success is tied to your connections. I am already somewhere on the chain of success in the US, while in Iceland I'd start with only my non-complete anglo education.

That being said, if my BF wanted to, I'd gladly move to the Oceanic region once our education is complete. More likely we'll move to California, though, as that's where his job prospects are best, and mine are unrelated to region.


Edit: BtW, Iceland is about as secure as the US, because it's part of NATO, and the US promises to protect NATO members. :)
« Last Edit: September 29, 2013, 10:54:24 pm by Chakra »

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2013, 11:29:10 pm »
Lol Tolli getting CRUSHED  by Chakra. I guess not that big of a surprise.

But tolli, first you start off with threads about love/prosperity and the origins of hate... now this? You realize this is in the Hate category? I hate to gang up on you, but EVEN IF you won argument with chakra... Why brag and boost yourself for being superior and put down/laugh at the rest? This is like making fun of the fat kid in gym class.
No country is even close to perfect, including USA. But there is no doubt USA is one of the better countries on earth. Why make fun out of **** like kids dying of starvation at the age of 7 in Africa? This is all i hear from you:

"hurhur we are da bezt, luuk africuh dey cant eben feed dur kids hurhur, da moeny i spended on gas dis week is moer den taht kiddo in africA spent on fo0d in lifetiem DURHURBDUR we r so much bettur"

"HUrhur we haz bezt rate of homelesS 2 rich ppl in americuh cuz we HAZ Moast homelesS ppl... see iz dur no reeson wai we not bestest? Homelesz pplz gettin' dem goald teeths rite now aHurrr"

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2013, 11:34:22 pm »
Some statistics:

Granted, this is from 2001, but I reckon it hasn't become much better since then, if not worse.
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Social-expenditures-2001-OCSE.png/800px-Social-expenditures-2001-OCSE.png[img]
This map shows the social expenditures of ones GDP. In other words what one DOESNT pay on healthcare, taxes, insurance etc.

You have high education, but 53% of your college graduates under 25 years old is unemployed.
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/53-percent-of-all-young-college-graduates-in-america-are-either-unemployed-or-underemployed

In 6 years times, you have climbed from 10% to 30% in unemployed people who've been workless for more than 52 weeks

People are unable to pay their bills on time, or are negligent in this. One out of three Americans doesn't pay on time.
http://heraldnews.suntimes.com/business/11698828-420/one-in-three-americans-paying-bills-late-survey.html

Your student loan problem is GIGANTIC. Besides, it's growing rapidly.
http://www.consumerfinance.gov/blog/too-big-to-fail-student-debt-hits-a-trillion/

Your median income is one of the highest, granted. Still you pay shitloads of healthcare while countries like Sweden, Norway and Austria have this completely for free. Besides, your median income, one of the few things you do rank very high in, is dropping. In the last six years you've decreased by 7.4%.
http://economy.money.cnn.com/2012/03/06/economy-improves-incomes-dont/

In the year 2000, 21% of the money 'earned' in the US was 'hand-out' money. Social welfare benefits. Nowadays, that is 35%, people cannot sustain themselves so the government is creating money, so that they can hand it out and say the US isn't going to ****?
http://www.cnbc.com/id/41969508

The poorest 50% of your population owns only 2.5% of the wealth in the USA. Talk about social inequalty. Yea, you can make it big in the US (though Chakra mentioned that's the same everywhere, which is completely true) but you're more likely to end up in slums in the US than in bloody India.
http://www.businessinsider.com/facts-about-inequality-in-america-2011-11#half-of-america-owns-25-of-countrys-wealth-the-top-1-owns-a-third-of-it-2

Since 1970, the dollar has inflated enormously. It is now worth 83% less than before. Yea you're making a lot of money, but you won't be able to buy much with it. This is slowly going down the Zimbabwan dollars way.
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/inflation-is-a-tax-and-the-federal-reserve-is-taxing-the-living-daylights-out-of-us

Every minute, the US national debt is increasing by 2 million dollars. And you currently have a total of $16,738,443,175,473.97 of debt.. almost 17 trillion dollars man.
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current

I'm not saying which country is best, I'm certainly saying that the USA is not even NEAR the best.
Good luck refuting mate.
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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2013, 12:06:58 am »
I can't refute anything you have just said

But USA is still the best country to live in, and Americans are destroying this very countrys greatness and most Americans have no clue how it's happening.  All of those statistics are quite irrelevant.  We still have #1 opportunity reguardless of where we come from to become the most successful individuals the world can produce.

Hopefully we'll stop meddling in foreign military occupations and instead come protect our borders from terrorism instead of trying to defeat it at it's source which is impossible to do because terrorism comes from thought.

The people of USA are the biggest problem.  Very uneducated about their own political system.  It will take the American public to make America greater than it already is.

If no one has a stronger opinion about the USA in favor of another country then get out of the thread.  If you can't make a better comparison of a greater country then you have no valid argument.

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2013, 12:09:54 am »
Niggers

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2013, 12:42:31 am »
I got much lower chance of dying young in Iceland, so Iceland is best country in world!!!

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2013, 12:45:54 am »
Iceland = bigger chance of being blown off the face of the Earth.

USA BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD :D

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2013, 01:10:53 am »
Chakra, AIDS follows you no matter where you go :D

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2013, 01:13:35 am »
Who cares about being blown off the face of the Earth? It's still being killed and... Icelandics got much lower chance of being killed!!!

Well, we made it to the second page without any progress, so maybe we can formalize the debate a bit more?

To compare two things, we need criteria, else everything is subjective. What makes a country a great place to live? What makes it bad?

I argue that these are the most important factors:

  • Socioeconomic mobility between generations (opportunity).
  • Access to healthcare.
  • Access to quality education.
  • Freedom from physical harm (including death).

What are your criteria, Tolli?
« Last Edit: September 30, 2013, 01:23:29 am by Chakra »

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2013, 01:17:55 am »
Chakra i was hoping for some smart remark back, but i just got ignored. Ouch that hurt

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2013, 01:30:01 am »
The same as yours, Chakra.

 

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