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Chakra

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2013, 02:25:30 am »
OK, so for socioeconomic mobility between generations I get:


Life expectancy rates show the US is behind OECD countries while Iceland is greatly ahead, especially at birth (high infant mortality in the US).


Meanwhile health care costs are growing at faster rates (of already much higher costs) in the US compared to OCED, and more-so compared to Iceland.


A lot more Icelandic children are enrolled into education than Americans.


Poor people in Iceland have a ~70% chance of going to college while it's only ~30% in America.


Peacefulness isn't really even a comparison. Iceland ranks as the most peaceful country in the world while the US is 99th. This takes into account many factors: perceived criminality, number of security officers & police, homicides, incarcerated population, access to weapons, organized conflict, violent demonstrations, violent crime, political instability, political terror, weapon importations, terrorist activities, death from conflicts, military expenditures, army size, UN peacekeeping funding, nuclear/heavy weapons, displaced people, relations to neighboring countries, and current conflicts.


On every measurement, Iceland ranks better than the US. To claim the US is a better place to live than Iceland is to be anti-number.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2013, 02:30:00 am by Chakra »

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2013, 02:35:26 am »
Socioeconomic mobility between generations (opportunity). - The biggest gaps have been overcome through Americans, not people from Iceland ^^.  We also still gold that ability to this day.  If we keep going down the path we are going right now economically we could lose that privilege :D.  This alone makes America > Iceland.
Access to healthcare.  -  We have access to healthcare AND access to work to provide ourselves with healthcare.  The people that are out of work aren't trying hard enough to find it.
Access to quality education.  - Got that.  Individuals just need to apply themselves to go to it and apply it.
Freedom from physical harm (including death).  -  We have the right to bear arms, and those that brake the law must be punished, therefore it isn't the US as a whole country that isn't protecting us from physical harm, but the people themselves are naively not protecting themselves.

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« Last Edit: September 30, 2013, 02:37:18 am by Tollison »

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2013, 02:44:06 am »
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Socioeconomic mobility between generations (opportunity). - The biggest gaps have been overcome through Americans, not people from Iceland ^^.  We also still gold that ability to this day.  If we keep going down the path we are going right now economically we could lose that privilege :D.  This alone makes America > Iceland.
Zero evidence of this.

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Access to healthcare.  -  We have access to healthcare AND access to work to provide ourselves with healthcare.  The people that are out of work aren't trying hard enough to find it.
Access includes how easy it is. Easier to get good healthcare in Iceland than in the US.

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Access to quality education.  - Got that.  Individuals just need to apply themselves to go to it and apply it.
Good education costs money. Good luck if you're poor!~~~~

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Freedom from physical harm (including death).  -  We have the right to bear arms, and those that brake the law must be punished, therefore it isn't the US as a whole country that isn't protecting us from physical harm, but the people themselves are naively not protecting themselves.
Cool in theory. In actuality you get shot a lot less in Iceland than in the US.

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2013, 02:52:15 am »
lots of evidence.  You just have to do some research.  I don't have to show you statistics to be right ^^

Access to healthcare is easy.  Work for it.

Good education does cost money, so work for it.

Both the US and Iceland have the right to bare arms.  Why do you think Iceland is so safe? :D

The U.S. is just full of immoral people who commit crimes.  If the people of the US world strengthen their moral standards then there would be less crime.  Bringing up whether you are more liable to be shot in America isn't relevant to the whole country.  It is only relevant to the areas of which it is relevant.

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2013, 03:05:08 am »
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lots of evidence.  You just have to do some research.  I don't have to show you statistics to be right ^^
I did some research, and the evidence is agaisnt you.

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Access to healthcare is easy.  Work for it.

Good education does cost money, so work for it.
So you agree there is greater access to healthcare and education in Iceland. Thank you.

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Both the US and Iceland have the right to bare arms.  Why do you think Iceland is so safe? :D

The U.S. is just full of immoral people who commit crimes.  If the people of the US world strengthen their moral standards then there would be less crime.  Bringing up whether you are more liable to be shot in America isn't relevant to the whole country.  It is only relevant to the areas of which it is relevant.
You said, "Americans are the best race thus far," not "Texans," or "Californians." The facts are simple: you are less likely to get shot in Iceland. You seem to be arguing Icelandic people are more moral, that's just a positive in my favor.

So far you are losing on socioeconomic mobility, have agreed there is greater access to healthcare and education in Iceland, and agreed that Icelandic people are more physically secure. Yet you still argue the US is better why?

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2013, 03:11:16 am »
Hell no it isn't.  America is still #1 if you want opportunity.  There are more poor to rich success stories coming out of USA than Iceland :D

Greater access to healthcare in Iceland?  Hell no lol.  America has the best medical facilities you just gotta work for it to get inside of them.  Quit being a lazy, chakra.

Americans ARE THE BEST RACE THUS FAR!  We just need to arm ourselves like Iceland does instead of being panzies.  Americans shouldn't be unarmed panzies!!!  Morals of America are at an all time low, but there are still good, hard working Americans like me that are willing to educate those that don't understand how acquiring healthcare, and benefits works.

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2013, 03:17:22 am »
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Hell no it isn't.  America is still #1 if you want opportunity.  There are more poor to rich success stories coming out of USA than Iceland
That's because America has a thousand times more people. Per capita, however, Iceland has "more poor to rich success stories."

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Greater access to healthcare in Iceland?  Hell no lol.  America has the best medical facilities you just gotta work for it to get inside of them.  Quit being a lazy, chakra.
You apparently don't know what the word access means. We aren't talking about "best healthcare facilities in the world," we're talking about, "a means of approaching or entering a place" of healthcare.
Healthcare costs are 52.27% less in Iceland than they are in the US.

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Americans ARE THE BEST RACE THUS FAR!  We just need to arm ourselves like Iceland does instead of being panzies.  Americans shouldn't be unarmed panzies!!!
So you continue to agree Iceland does better on physical security.

Iceland still beats the US on all four categories previously agreed upon.

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2013, 03:24:42 am »
America isn't the greatest country anymore.  Exas video moved me deeply..

I still want to become a great elected official of the United States and make it prosper though :D

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2013, 11:28:03 pm »
America is the best place because even though Chakra is American he is still routing against it. We have the most broad ranged group of citizens where half of them like Chakra could careless about the country whereas the other half love the country. It is quite an astounding country you don't get that kind of diversity anywhere else.

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2013, 12:08:09 am »
Lol, what do you base that on BEER?

You have 2 extremly similar political parties in USA. In Sweden we have 8 only in the parlament, and you talk about diversity lol...

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Re: Americans are the best race thus far
« Reply #41 on: October 02, 2013, 04:45:16 am »
Chakra won that argument by page 2 and then reaffirmed the position at the start of page 3. Tollison just couldn't understand the simple points that Chakra had stated backed with statistical proof. The only question I'd ask chakra when he provided such proof is: What were his sources? :p

Just because you haven't heard of "Rich to poor success stories" in other countries Tolli, doesn't mean they don't exist, the only reason I in Australia would hear anything to do with America would be because I research that aspect myself on American news websites. Or because they are in movies/Television Series/documentries mass produced by America. When was the last time you went on an Iceland News Website? lol

Anyway, good debate up until Tollison argued a point without understanding what was said. Very patient of Chakra for sticking with it, making him understand, lol as per usual when I was getting him to tutor me on basic math LOL(I hadn't studied math in two years and needed his help with the Elo Ladder system), Patient!

Edit: Grammatical Error
« Last Edit: October 02, 2013, 03:50:51 pm by Alph4bet »

 

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