Chakra won that argument by page 2 and then reaffirmed the position at the start of page 3. Tollison just couldn't understand the simple points that Chakra had stated backed with statistical proof. The only question I'd ask chakra when he provided such proof is: What were his sources? :p
Just because you haven't heard of "Rich to poor success stories" in other countries Tolli, doesn't mean they don't exist, the only reason I in Australia would hear anything to do with America would be because I research that aspect myself on American news websites. Or because they are in movies/Television Series/documentries mass produced by America. When was the last time you went on an Iceland News Website? lol
Anyway, good debate up until Tollison argued a point without understanding what was said. Very patient of Chakra for sticking with it, making him understand, lol as per usual when I was getting him to tutor me on basic math LOL(I hadn't studied math in two years and needed his help with the Elo Ladder system), Patient!
Edit: Grammatical Error