Author Topic: Cele's Everything About Dota Thread. (Read 680 times)

Chiefhero[sks] · « **on:** December 01, 2013, 03:48:36 am »

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2: Lich isn't first pick or first ban worthy. There's a ton of better options. His ult got buffed, yeah, but you'll rarely see it bounce past what its buff was. His ultimate can deal nice dps under the correct circumstances, but it's not reliable by any means. Most chainfrosts I see bounce once or twice and then end there. The extra potential bounces mean nothing the vast majority of the time. He's not "tier 1 pick/ban". Tier 1 is like... naix, od, chen, visage, naga, wisp, weaver, bat, dark seer, furion, and probably clockwerk now too. Maybe lich is tier 2, buthe's pretty situational. Lich is great against a bunch of melees, but against ranged not so much... frost armor doesn't do that much, and ranged units are typically already spread out. That's not to say you couldn't pick up lich first as a support, but I wouldn't waste a ban on him.

i think the debate about the lich is more focused about the massive buff to his third spell (kill a unit for mana), as it now gives you levels for killing your own creeps. which means that you can put lich on the offlane to deny gold/levels from the enemie's carry, as well as level himself up in the process.

offlaners are usually semi-carries of some sort (aim to get some items, usually utility like meka/force etc), and include spells which allow them to level up (invis heroes/escape mechanism). most offlaners can't deny farm from the enemy carry though, whereas lich does this very well (denying full-hp creeps every wave also means that the creep equilibrium will be closer to his tower all the time unless enemies pull the jungle).

His frost-armor also works against ranged now btw. and his ulti deals up to ~5000 damage if all bounces hit (before reductions). NASTY ^^ give a new answer on this question if you changed your mind in light of the new info. i got additional questions though:

1) how should i draft heroes in CM mode? assuming i don't know anything about drafting, what would you tell me to improve my drafting?

2) how to win a game where the enemy clearly has stronger lategame potential, but also has strong anti-push (kotl or whatever)?

Eager to hear de reply!

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