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Chiefhero[sks]

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Re: Cele's Everything About Dota Thread.
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2013, 01:34:32 am »
midas math is tricky as HELL. almost noone (including cele it seems) factors in opportunity cost. in other words, by not going midas (and getting a dagger/forcestaff/meka/whatever), you're increasing your earlygame potency. how do you figure that you're gonna be ahead lategame through a midas, when you could potentially achieve greater results lategame by dominating more earlygame? or a carry who's farming potential is increased though the alternatives to midas (bfury/yasha/threads/lothars etc). items like these increase your farming-speed, and midas delays these items and makes it more likely that you die if u get ganged.

the other problem is that 1900 gold earlygame is worth more than 1900 gold midgame. its worth even more than 1900 gold lategame. you're not really getting "free gold" right after you recoup the initial 1900 gold you spent on the midas.

third problem is risk assessment. consider the difference a meka can make in teamfights around min 15-20. getting teamwipes at this stage, imo, is worth more than an entire game of midas use. meka can be that difference between the two teams that clash.

another problem with midas is that people don't factor in the gold/experience you would have gotten by killing a creep manually instead of using midas on it. for instance, if a carry has midas and uses it on a enemy creep, he's not getting +190 gold on that entire creepwave. instead, hes getting 190-50 bonus gold on the creepwave, since he would have lasthit the creep if he didn't have midas. the same applies to the experience you gain. it's similar with jungle-creeps; you could have spent 2-3 seconds killing the creep instead of using midas on it. so the gold/xp gain is lower than what people use in their calculation.

there are so many problems in trying to calculate whether midas is worth it or not. i'd say it's more of a G4MBLE than anything, it might pay out and it might not. assuming that you're gonna be stronger if the game drags on, as explained, is a fallacy. a poor analogy would be assuming that you're always gonna be in a better position after 10 min of sheeptag if you invest in cashfarms, rather than investing in upgraded farms/auras early.

given all of this, can you give us a new evaluation of midas cele? :D
Edit: THE WORD G4MBLE IS CENSORED LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Last Edit: December 02, 2013, 01:36:50 am by Chiefhero[sks] »
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