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What you are saying makes since Amir.

On top of that I believe LoL has a larger player base because of how much the shitty ass company Riot (creators of LoL) baby the community. Its quite obnoxious how ridiculously babied every LoL player is when it comes to trash talking/flaming etc. In Dota 2 there is VoIP which already makes Valve 10 times better then Riot. Also Valve actually knows how to create a game client. Riot's client is a piece of **** thrown together on Adobe. Overall I think Dota 2 is a much better designed game by a much better company. Riot is one of the worst companies in the world and I can't wait to see it die out once everyone gets out of this MOBA gaming mentality.

On the Runes/Champions grinding thing. You said some people like to "grind" for "advantages", but I actually believe some people like to "grind" to actually earn something. In Dota 2 there is nothing to play for. There is nothing you earn from winning. For me I do not care about this ****, but many people do like to "earn" something for playing.