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HaWkys

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Convert TFT map to RoC?
« on: November 16, 2013, 05:27:20 pm »
Is it possible to convert tft maps to roc without downloading and using a whole bunch of different things?

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Re: Convert TFT map to RoC?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2013, 07:49:00 pm »
I describe this before, but I'll do it again.

Hostbots can host any map on any client (TFT maps on RoC). However, if the map uses TFT object data, those objects simply won't appear when someone without TFT plays.

If everyone in the game has TFT, it should play perfectly normal. However, if someone in the game has RoC, then core objects--units, items, abilities--that are TFT-only won't exist in the TFT map. This will result in units not appearing at buildings that train them, buildings not showing up in the building list, items not appearing in shops, abilities not appearing on units, destructible not being placed on the map, etc. This will occur for everyone in the game, even if they have TFT.

For the person without TFT, the effects carry over to RoC-base objects that used TFT-only data, mainly models and textures. If a RoC-unit is modified to have a TFT model, then the RoC user will see only a shadow (people with TFT will see the entire unit). If an item, ability, or buff is RoC-based, but uses a TFT display icon, then you'll get a green square.

You don't actually need the map to be .w3m to work completely on RoC. My Fixus and Bulldog maps worked 100% on RoC without any missing information. ReVo, however, uses some TFT-only icons, so there are green squares (but that's all). Some games won't work at all, however.

There are a few shortcuts you can take to making a map RoC-compatible (completely). The easiest shortcut, especially for ability data (i.e., you want Locust on RoC), is to simply import the TFT ability silk file into the map. You can also import individual icons and models.

However, the better solution would obviously be to just not use TFT-only data, as there is no real need (unless you need Locust).

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Re: Convert TFT map to RoC?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2013, 08:07:33 pm »
Ah thanks chakra, but when i load my map and pub it on my hostbot, my entire wc3 crashes. Is this apart of it or is it something else?

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Re: Convert TFT map to RoC?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2013, 08:15:41 pm »
Have you tried testing it on RoC and TFT hostbots?

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Re: Convert TFT map to RoC?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2013, 11:20:01 am »
Chakra you're frigan hilarious. There are other ways in getting the map fully roc compatible but you're sooo lazy you will not do them, that and you believe anyone that hosts without a hostbot should be shot(stupid americans and their guns).
My map as of 1.1.3 will be fully roc compatible, using the full definition. Chakras solutions aren't fully roc compatible lol.

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Re: Convert TFT map to RoC?
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2013, 11:16:12 pm »
You can't make it 100% compatible if you use tft based units, even if you import all data modified and textures and models.

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Re: Convert TFT map to RoC?
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2013, 01:48:19 am »
You sure you can't import the required SLK files? Pretty sure you can to make any TFT-only object data work on RoC.

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Re: Convert TFT map to RoC?
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2013, 07:30:44 am »
You can, many maps have done it in the past. Even doh-san did it with sheep tag a while ago lol.

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Re: Convert TFT map to RoC?
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2013, 06:01:10 pm »
I was talking about the units lol, not the abilities - they are 100% possible :)

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Re: Convert TFT map to RoC?
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2013, 04:36:04 pm »
You can make custom units by importing them in. Why wouldn't you be able to import ft units? lol.

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Re: Convert TFT map to RoC?
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2013, 08:43:56 pm »
Importing custom models has nothing to do with tft models, tft models are tft (well this sounds stupid) and contain tft textures with a specific data inside.
From what I've heard, is that if you want to make tft models be seen for people who don't have tft, you must import all units' data and edit its textures with photoshop.

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Re: Convert TFT map to RoC?
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2013, 09:01:27 pm »
All you have to do is import the dependencies. This means you'd need to import only the mdx (model) and blp (texture) files for the specific TFT units you want.

Though why you'd do this instead of just using RoC data is beyond me.

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Re: Convert TFT map to RoC?
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2013, 10:13:35 pm »
I'm talking about tft based units, even if they are roc ones, importing model with its path and textures, won't work, i already tried that.

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Re: Convert TFT map to RoC?
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2013, 03:07:51 am »
http://www.thehelper.net/threads/how-to-convert-a-frozen-throne-map-so-it-is-playable-in-reign-of-chaos.144141/

Before I googled for a guide, I got as far as getting TFT units to at least register, but they had no models. If I tried changing their model in the object editor, it'd cause the map to fatal. ._. But I'm sure if I followed the guide it'd work. ^^

 

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