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Why i play SHEEPTAG instead of DOTA!
« on: May 07, 2014, 10:09:15 am »
Here are a few of the reasons i choose SHeeptag over Dota:

1) sheeptag has a larger playerbase
2) more depth/variation/mastery -> skill is more rewarding
3) more develouped and polished map
4) higher skill-limit -> virtually impossible to fully master/can always improve
5) sheeptag constantly has new additions/features to gameplay -> the game elevates every few months
6) most of the legends/old sheeptaggers/cool guys play sheeptag instead of dota
7) Sheeptag is more strategic and requires more ''intelligence''/theory/understanding, in addition to requiring more skill/talent/practice.
8') and, as a result of point 1-7 AND MORE, sheeptag is more fun. WAY more fun.

What's your reason boys? why do you play sheeptag over dota?




I'd also like for someone to explain a phenomenon to me:

the vast majority of the people in our community that has played both ST and Dota (and mastered the basics of both games) chose to play dota. in fact, the ONLY person in the HISTORY of our community (that i know of) who mastered the basics of dota, yet chose to play sheeptag, was shoop. EVERYONE else either switched partly or fully to dota.

you can write a whole page namedropping everyone who swapped from sheeptag to dota. this started way before st "died", and has continued up til today.

what could explain this?

and since most of todays sheeptaggers haven't tried dota -> What would you say the chances are that you would prefer ST over Dota (after a few weeks of learning dota), given the rate of conversion we've seen so far?

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you complained that dota didn't have a ranked system before. they implemented that months ago. what are your current thoughts on dota?
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Re: Why i play SHEEPTAG instead of DOTA!
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2014, 10:28:26 am »
Don't you mean why I play DOTA instead of Sheeptag?
I am really confused, haven't seen you play any sheep tag lol.^^

All your points "Larger playerbase" is dota.
Also you talking about Dota2 or Dota on war3?

I have played both Dota1 and Dota2 still prefer ST and League :)


Or is the purpose of this post to ask US why we play ST over DOTA.
Then you could have made it a bit clearer by setting the points you made to the right game :P
Like what is the reason you play Sheep tag? Dota has more player, better map etc. etc.


Obviously since nobody hosted alot of pub games in the last few months aside from oSaS before I had internship,
nobody knows Sheep Tag and since Dota is hosted 24/7 ofc they have a larger playerbase :).

Mainly because I enjoy ST more. I play ST more for fun than competitive.
I prefer Sheep Tag, because its pretty simple and enjoyable with the right people.
If everyone chillens you can have a great time.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2014, 10:30:17 am by SHEePYTaGGeRNeP »

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Re: Why i play SHEEPTAG instead of DOTA!
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2014, 01:47:59 pm »
As for the game itself it's a no brainer. Sheeptag is complete **** compared to DotA, even if you look at how the game was when it actually was good (before turkbrain map, before zero delay, before every aspect of the game being mastered by most people) it was still not even close.

What made me prefer ST over Dota years ago was 100% the community. A relatively small, close-knitted and extremely competitive community with this great culture and these great personalities was way better than anything the Dota community could offer. Nowadays I can't understand how you can enjoy ST. Almost all the funny people has left and we're stuck with boringass nerds like Jean-Mii. The competitive flame-culture is gone and has been replaced with a lick-system and abuse. The game itself has lost all its charm and offers barely any mastery any longer.

But ye if some people still enjoy it I'm happy for them. It's great seeing this game still being alive when pretty much everybody thought it would die in 2009-2010.

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Re: Why i play SHEEPTAG instead of DOTA!
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2014, 07:02:29 pm »
Yee it seems like the case for sheep tag and dota are the same everywhere I ask:

1. Sheeptag is better not b.c of the game, but the community.

If you find a dota community that has nice humor and is active then it crushes ST in all aspects (which I have found btw ^^). Better game, people with microphones (make it more personable), flames are funnier when spoken etc. There is also quite the gathering of ST players that play almost exclusively dota 2 now, and these are the people who are typically the most enjoyable ppl to hang with (don't take flames super personal, there is no abuse to worry about etc).

I choose dota over sheep tag every. single. day. But yee I like to play ST every once in a while to reminisce and see how kids are doing. I bring skype parties to make it more enjoyable since the game is insanely boring without trashtalking lmao.


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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2014, 08:45:10 pm »
I have played both games, and I can honestly say I find sheep tag more fun, and better. My knowledge of Dota 2 isn't that great I admit but I have a pretty good understanding of, yet I still think sheep tag is mor fun.
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Re: Why i play SHEEPTAG instead of DOTA!
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2014, 11:57:11 pm »
I used to play dota and loved it, but my only problem with that game is its' community.   Which also happens to be the reason why I have a problem with sheep tag and every other online community ever.

Most internet users, it seems, are intolerant and sadistic people.
I bring skype parties to make it more enjoyable since the game is insanely boring without trashtalking lmao.
see what I mean?

I will never go back to DOTA.  We play games to enjoy them, and mastering games is everyones objective, but I will never switch to dota nor play it because I think sheep tag is too unique and fun to give up.

Both games require intelligence, and the higher your intelligence is the better you become.  Sheep tag is a repetitive game, and an outdated one, but no one in any sheep tag community has ever tried to create a functioning unified sheep tag civilization that will preserve itself.  I believe thats what made IceFrog a true legend.  It wasn't the game that made him a legend but his efforts to preserve and advertise it were not only revered but effective as well.

There is no famous sheep tag legends.  the 4 listed in the wiki page: sidey, drew, shoop, and amir, are only legends within a small community known for their skill.  Neither one of them have done huge significant changes for the community.  Some have owned clans, and some have passed them on, but no chiefs have went that extra mile to further preserve and expand sheep tag as icefrog did with dota.

Sheep tag and dota once had their intelligent and friendly communities, but that is no longer the case.







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Re: Why i play SHEEPTAG instead of DOTA!
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2014, 01:57:09 am »
i play sheep tag over dota because i played and became good at sheep tag first, and there is a good community that comes with it!

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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2014, 02:25:04 am »
Dota is a MOBA. Sheep Tag is a tag. It depends what genre you feel like playing...

Also I'd pick Sheep Tag over Dota because the community in Dota is to big. Meaning in Dota it's very unlikely to play with some of the best players and actually have input in the games development. In Sheep Tag we know everyone who plays which is why it's so great. I can guarantee that you have not played with every Dota player at least once. In the Sheep Tag Community I can not only say that I have played with every player, but I can probably say I have had a conversation with every player.

The Dota community is more of a country there is tons of people to play with
The Sheep Tag community is more of a family everyone has to get along if you want to play

Playing with the same people makes the game more interesting as you learn the skills of each player allowing you do increase your own skill by knowing what that person may or may not do. You do not get this in Dota as much as you do in Sheep Tag.

Anyways there is no comparing the 2 as Dota is massive. But if you would like to play with your family come to Sheep Tag^^

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Re: Why i play SHEEPTAG instead of DOTA!
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2014, 06:41:43 am »
This is why we don't invite you to skype calls. You're literally buzzkillington, lmao.

Here is what a skype call with you might sound like:


*nmcdo dies to beer*
Beer: ROFL sit the **** down nmcdo
Nmcdo: xD fu beer nubcake
Tollison: Beer stop being so critical, nmcdo was most likely already seated prior to your move. Nmcdo, don't retaliate with frivolous nonsensical flames as it lowers the quality of this conversation!
Nmcdo: ....
Beer: ....

XDXPX)

« Last Edit: May 08, 2014, 06:48:48 am by Celestial_One »

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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2014, 01:15:21 pm »
Cele I read that post, and got so confused when I thought I Said half of tollis post, but then I read it properly and found it kinda funny ^^. Only thing is I don't got Skype.  But yeθ would have said that in game.
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Re: Why i play SHEEPTAG instead of DOTA!
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2014, 03:08:49 pm »
Quote from: Beer
The Dota community is more of a country there is tons of people to play with
The Sheep Tag community is more of a family everyone has to get along if you want to play

Playing with the same people makes the game more interesting as you learn the skills of each player allowing you do increase your own skill by knowing what that person may or may not do. You do not get this in Dota as much as you do in Sheep Tag.

Quote from: Glow
i play sheep tag over dota because...there is a good community that comes with it!

you can make communities/different clans/groups of friends within the dota community. for instance, we used to play Dota inhouses exclusively in clan WhiS for around a year, with the same 30-40 people shuffling in and out of games. it was a nice little family where everyone knew eachother :)

you should also remember that the majority of the "core st players" switched over to DotA. in other words; most of the people that made the STC unique/fun historically => switched over to Dota. a few of the bigger names include exa, cow, chaise, amir, gosusheep, magoo. you can add roughly 40 names (all of which contributied to making the STC so fun), and you have a list of the people that are partying Dota2 on steam. the vast majority will be active players. a tiny fraction of the names worth mentioning include cele, itio, shroomy, r3v-fre3k, thefrozenarmy, polar, Borja, Shoefactory, Koala, Katshuma, Enstek, Etc.

And those are just the people who are on Dota2. This doesn't include the even bigger list of sheeptaggers who switched over to dota on Wc3 (azzuro, cookie, twix, tazz, wizardman, etc) before.

in short -> DotA offers your exactly what you like in ST, as well as the option to play with 9 people you've never met before. not only are there mass communities you can join in dota 2 (like Cele did), but you can play with the exact same people which the STC consituted of for the past 10 years.



other than that; funny that people talk about "the community made me st!!", while in reality => you get to know the community after you decide to spend mass time in Sheeptag, not the other way around. besides, this is sorta like the kids that think they found their "soulmate" when they hook up with a random girl, or the patriot who thinks he randomly got born into the best city of the best country in the world (hi shoop). im sure most of you'd feel the same way regardless of what game/community you decided to spend years in.

the blabber seems more like rationalization for devouting so much time into sheeptag, and continuing doing it, when there are OBVIOUSLY better alternatives such as dota2 ^^
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2014, 05:46:34 pm »
I play sheep tag over Dota because IT'S BETTER, why did most of those people switch to Dota? I'll tell you why for the answer is completely normal, after playing St for so much time just means they felt like wanted ssomething new and satisfying, which in this case is Dota,  doesn't mean Dota is better in anyway.
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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2014, 09:19:37 pm »
@amir
That doesn't change the fact that Dota is a MOBA and Sheep Tag is a TAG. Completely different genres.

I mean hell while were at it lets REWIND 5 YEARS
I prefer Halo 3 over Dota. Halo 3 is better and bigger than Dota. Halo 3 has more tournaments and is in MLG. Halo 3 has endless amounts of custom games to play and different game modes to master. Halo 3 has a better ranking system than Dota. There is no reason to play Dota when Halo 3 is already so much better and has a solid foundation with a great company producing and updating the game. There is so much you can master in Halo 3 that you just can't get in Dota. For all these reasons Halo 3 is a better game than Dota and you should just leave Dota and play Halo 3.

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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2014, 10:04:25 pm »
OMG BEER! I played Halo 3 Back in the day so much,.. memories !
At one point me and my brother were INSANE at halo 3 ^^.
yEEEEE Id say halo 3 > dota
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Re: Why i play SHEEPTAG instead of DOTA!
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2014, 11:18:49 pm »
@amir
That doesn't change the fact that Dota is a MOBA and Sheep Tag is a TAG. Completely different genres.

I mean hell while were at it lets REWIND 5 YEARS
I prefer Halo 3 over Dota. Halo 3 is better and bigger than Dota. Halo 3 has more tournaments and is in MLG. Halo 3 has endless amounts of custom games to play and different game modes to master. Halo 3 has a better ranking system than Dota. There is no reason to play Dota when Halo 3 is already so much better and has a solid foundation with a great company producing and updating the game. There is so much you can master in Halo 3 that you just can't get in Dota. For all these reasons Halo 3 is a better game than Dota and you should just leave Dota and play Halo 3.

I don't know how big Halo is but maybe you don't want to play on a console and as for PC, Dota is the biggest game in the world. http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/04/10/dota-2-overtakes-league-of-legends-as-most-played-pc-game-of-2013-claims-report/

As for Halo being in the MLG, so is Dota. Dota also has its own tournament "The International" which has the biggest prize pool out of any gaming tournament. http://www.esportsearnings.com/tournaments

Skillwise it's a no brainer. No FPS can get close to the mastery and teamwork required in Dota, this is obvious to anyone who have played both at a decent level (which you haven't).

But ye Amirs arguments are stupid. Some people prefer the concept of sheeptag over the concept of Dota. If people didn't prefer different conceps, everybody would play the same game.

 

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