Author Topic: Why i play SHEEPTAG instead of DOTA! (Read 1137 times)

XXXandBEER · « **Reply #15 on:** May 09, 2014, 01:47:56 am »

Quote from: XXXandBEER on May 08, 2014, 09:19:37 pm

I mean hell while were at it lets REWIND 5 YEARS

@SamLowe I said go back 5 years^^
But ye thanks for understanding my argument. Sheep Tag and Dota are 2 different games.

Chiefhero[sks] · « **Reply #16 on:** May 09, 2014, 05:19:55 am »

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That doesn't change the fact that Dota is a MOBA and Sheep Tag is a TAG. Completely different genres.

I mean hell while were at it lets REWIND 5 YEARS
I prefer Halo 3 over Dota.

well sure. sex and juggling meatballs are two entirely different things too. you can bring enstek to explain to us all how some people prefer juggling meatballs and some prefer having sex, i'm still gonna confidently argue that you're missing out BIGTIME if juggling keeps you from having sex, and you keep on juggling those meatballs like you're Gordon Ramzey.

however...if you're saying that you shouldn't switch from dota to halo3, assuming that halo3 is objectively better or more fun, then we're speaking different languages my son.

do you object my arguments (Dota2 > st) or my conclusion (therefor -> switch to dota2!)? i can't tell.

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But ye Amirs arguments are stupid. Some people prefer the concept of sheeptag over the concept of Dota. If people didn't prefer different conceps, everybody would play the same game.

not rly.

i think the only reason 99% of our community hasnt switched over to dota2 (only 94% has

), is because they haven't truly experienced dota, or because of some percieved risk in switching (losing all ur wc3 friends, might not find any new friends on dota 2, investment of time before you can start enjoying dota is too big, etc). this could be true even if dota was objectively better, which noone has claimed.

IF you have time to RUNTAG -> you HAVE to swap to dota. the alternative is irrational. this is based on everything i've said; most of our "unique/fun" community is on dota2, the difference in popularity/playerbase, dota2 is free(you all own a PC), and so on. the chances that you're gonna enjoy dota2 more than runtag is INSANELY big, and the wc3 players are accessible through stealthbots (You can keep your old friends).

im trying to show you guys the LIGHT. god told me to do it. after you've truly experienced dota2 and given it a chance = go back to runtag if you enjoy it more, no problem.

baiten92 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 09, 2014, 03:34:48 pm »

You should show up a little more on sheeptag games, Amir, and then this post woulda been legend. Behh players threw sheeptag for dota ! You really should give it a try once again

XXXandBEER · « **Reply #18 on:** May 09, 2014, 08:33:20 pm »

Quote from: Chiefhero[sks] on May 09, 2014, 05:19:55 am

well sure. sex and juggling meatballs are two entirely different things too. you can bring enstek to explain to us all how some people prefer juggling meatballs and some prefer having sex, i'm still gonna confidently argue that you're missing out BIGTIME if juggling keeps you from having sex, and you keep on juggling those meatballs like you're Gordon Ramzey.

Wow this just made my argument 10 times easier. My god do you read what you type?
Sex and Dota are two entirely different things too. I'm still gonna confidently argue that you're missing out BIGTIME if Dota keeps you from having sex.

Quote from: Chiefhero[sks] on May 09, 2014, 05:19:55 am

im trying to show you guys the LIGHT. god told me to do it. after you've truly experienced dota2 and given it a chance = go back to runtag if you enjoy it more, no problem.

Dota isn't a simple game. You have to actually play it A LOT before you can play it at your maximum potential. Meaning you have to learn all the different Heroes what they do the cooldowns on abilities and items. What each item does how items affect players etc. There is just too much to learn before you can actually play the game. Honestly I'd rather play something I already know how to like Sheep Tag then spend hours sucking at Dota trying to learn how to play it.

Chiefhero[sks] · « **Reply #19 on:** May 09, 2014, 11:17:40 pm »

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Wow this just made my argument 10 times easier. My god do you read what you type?
Sex and Dota are two entirely different things too. I'm still gonna confidently argue that you're missing out BIGTIME if Dota keeps you from having sex.

i'd quit dota. you're the one arguing to keep playing dota in this scenario. lol.

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Dota isn't a simple game. You have to actually play it A LOT before you can play it at your maximum potential. Meaning you have to learn all the different Heroes what they do the cooldowns on abilities and items. What each item does how items affect players etc. There is just too much to learn before you can actually play the game. Honestly I'd rather play something I already know how to like Sheep Tag then spend hours sucking at Dota trying to learn how to play it.

this is true for any game. the time it takes before you enjoy playing dota isn't any bigger than the time it takes in ST before you can start enjoying the game. the difference is that dota has a much bigger skill-limit and more mastery, so it takes MUCH longer to master the game. i consider in favor of Dota though.

ima end this post with a funny quote which relates to the logic you're using:

"I'd rather just stick to mast0rbation. i already know how to do it and i enjoy it. Why spend hours taking the p0rnstar out on a date before you can f0ck her? takes too much time" - aristotle

XXXandBEER · « **Reply #20 on:** May 10, 2014, 01:24:54 am »

Quote from: Chiefhero[sks] on May 09, 2014, 11:17:40 pm

the time it takes before you enjoy playing dota isn't any bigger than the time it takes in ST before you can start enjoying the game.

False.
You can not say whether or not someone else will enjoy a game. I'm sure there is people out there who hate Dota and hate Sheep Tag. There's people who just hate Sheep Tag and people who just hate Dota. You can't say everyone will enjoy any game after X amount of time they play it. Everyone is different.

Dota clearly has more to it then Sheep Tag, but does that mean more mastery? Idk that's very hard to judge and I don't feel like getting into that. Honestly it all comes down to how much time and effort you feel like putting into another game. I'm sure Dota is loads of fun, but me personally I don't have the time to get into another game right now. Also having played LoL as much as I have I feel like I would be going backwards if I went to Dota and had to basically relearn everything.

My turn for a funny quote using your logic:

"I'd rather just stick to p0rnstar #1. I already know her and get it in with her. Why dump p0rnstar #1 only to have to spend hours taking out p0rnstar #2 before I'm back to where I was." -Gandhi

Chiefhero[sks] · « **Reply #21 on:** May 10, 2014, 03:00:20 am »

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"I'd rather just stick to p0rnstar #1. I already know her and get it in with her. Why dump p0rnstar #1 only to have to spend hours taking out p0rnstar #2 before I'm back to where I was."

you're watching p0rnstar 1. everyone you know is watching p0rnstar 1. you're having a good time.

suddently, everyone you know start watching p0rnstar 2 instead. turns out p0rnstar 2 is the most paid, most famous etc p0rnstar in the world. you have not seen any videos of p0rnstar 2.

do you keep watching p0rnstar 1??? or do you act rationally, and give p0rnstar 2 a try, see what the fuzz is about and why the entire world prefers her over p0rnstar 1 - DESPITE the fact that p0rnstar 1 is good enough for ejaculating? sure, you'll waste time watching p0rnstar 2 videos if she turns out to be bad, but you have everything to gain and so little to lose. and the chances of gaining are MASSIVE!

listen guys, it's this simple: if you enjoy gaming and you haven't tried dota (for a decent amount of time, not some 2-3 rounds ****), GO TRY DOTA. you have so much to gain, and chances are that you'll like it. abandon this ship and catch up with the rest of the world you damn freaks ^^

drewisfat · « **Reply #22 on:** May 10, 2014, 03:35:01 am »

It's important to realize that dota is "competitive" "a lot to master" "high skill cap", because it has millions of players. It's become an interesting and challenging game, because it became so popular (and not the other way around here).

That's not a point to not play dota, just don't pretend the game is inherently more complex than others, like sheep tag. We can't imagine what levels sheep tag would be at if the player base was in the thousands, nonetheless if a million south koreans were playing it.

Ofc there's not a chance in hell sheep tag would have or will ever be popular, so by all means go with the flow. I'm just pretty pessimistic on what makes games popular to most people to begin with.

SHEePYTaGGeRNeP · « **Reply #23 on:** May 10, 2014, 11:13:19 am »

Quote from: drewisfat on May 10, 2014, 03:35:01 am

It's important to realize that dota is "competitive" "a lot to master" "high skill cap", because it has millions of players. It's become an interesting and challenging game, because it became so popular (and not the other way around here).

That's not a point to not play dota, just don't pretend the game is inherently more complex than others, like sheep tag. We can't imagine what levels sheep tag would be at if the player base was in the thousands, nonetheless if a million south koreans were playing it.

Ofc there's not a chance in hell sheep tag would have or will ever be popular, so by all means go with the flow. I'm just pretty pessimistic on what makes games popular to most people to begin with.

I completly agree with this.
Fix us koreans Drew! Maybe then the old legends will come back to defend their lost title

T_P_T · « **Reply #24 on:** May 10, 2014, 11:52:21 am »

I fix SKT T1 Faker in community np

Let's see who's good then :3

>asd<

Chiefhero[sks] · « **Reply #25 on:** May 10, 2014, 08:43:07 pm »

i RESPECT any man who has the BALLS to claim that a game is good(in short) because it has millions of players. one starts to wonder what attracted the millions to begin with.

both of the games in question started as wc3 custom mods, both got shitload of exposure, yet one of the games blew to the skies while the other blew to the toilet. one of the games is amongst the biggest in the world, while the other probably has an all-time-peak-record of 50-60 active players. i can't think of any advantage dota had over ST (during the early years) which would explain this difference in develoupment, apart from the games having "inherently" different levels of complexity/mastery/fun/whatever.

sure, this might just be a coincidence - a roll of the dice. maybe Dota got lucky. if you're willing to believe this (despite the fact that everything points to the contrary), then noone can help you. you've become (what we like to call) "a LOST man".

HaWkys · « **Reply #26 on:** May 10, 2014, 09:50:21 pm »

You gave up sheep tag for a game like that and you have the balls to express your opinion all over this forum that is SHEEP TAG BASED. You have not only shat on me but every single st player, I hope you do not return EVER!

Celestial_One · « **Reply #27 on:** May 10, 2014, 11:46:27 pm »

Hawkys shaddap, lol. First off this is general discussion, and it doesn't have to be related to sheep tag. Secondly, this is the most active thread this forum has seen in a while, that has actually generated intelligent discussion.

Ye idk about how dota got so popular, but I can safely say I jumped on that train really early. Me, and many other sheeptaggers recognized the potential dota had years before it exploded to what it is now. When it had a couple thousand players on tft, to when it became the most played custom game, to when it became a standalone with 2+ million regular players.

Dota is just more fun than sheep tag, lol. And any argument towards "the community" can be said towards dota (because there are a HELL of a lot more communities for dota).

Someone once described dota to me as "flashy" and "extravagant". Yeah that's a nice bonus, but there is also insane amount of teamwork, communication, strategy, and knowledge that comes with it. If anything sheep tag is flashy (BOMBERS, GOLEMS, HEADSHOTS), but lacking in all of these departments.

Nmcdo · « **Reply #28 on:** May 11, 2014, 04:19:05 am »

The only reason this is the most active thread 8th because it's an argument thread lol..
I would also argue to say Dota isn't as fun as sheep tag as I have played Dota and don't even find it close
To as satisfying. One of the main reasons people would have chosen Dota over sheep tag is because they look and see sheep and wolves and put it off thinking it's childish, they don't see its good aspects and never play it again. While in Dota that doesn't happen. The eye candy plus obvious skill is what makes people chose Dota. If someone were to realize the potential and all the different aspects of st it would probably Level the playing field. But that doesn't happen. And didn't happen. All the pros didn't advertise the game and thus we get what we have today. Now I know what I have said has flaws, but to back up a lot of what I said, I mean look at me. I simply saw pro game play in action and was able to realize how deep and awesome the game is, noting I had played Dota on wc3 before finding St, though I chose St.

glow · « **Reply #29 on:** May 12, 2014, 06:32:01 pm »

Quote from: Chiefhero[sks] on May 07, 2014, 10:09:15 am

Here are a few of the reasons i choose SHeeptag over Dota:

1) sheeptag has a larger playerbase
2) more depth/variation/mastery -> skill is more rewarding
3) more develouped and polished map
4) higher skill-limit -> virtually impossible to fully master/can always improve
5) sheeptag constantly has new additions/features to gameplay -> the game elevates every few months
6) most of the legends/old sheeptaggers/cool guys play sheeptag instead of dota
7) Sheeptag is more strategic and requires more ''intelligence''/theory/understanding, in addition to requiring more skill/talent/practice.
8') and, as a result of point 1-7 AND MORE, sheeptag is more fun. WAY more fun.

What's your reason boys? why do you play sheeptag over dota?

I'd also like for someone to explain a phenomenon to me:

the vast majority of the people in our community that has played both ST and Dota (and mastered the basics of both games) chose to play dota. in fact, the ONLY person in the HISTORY of our community (that i know of) who mastered the basics of dota, yet chose to play sheeptag, was shoop. EVERYONE else either switched partly or fully to dota.

you can write a whole page namedropping everyone who swapped from sheeptag to dota. this started way before st "died", and has continued up til today.

what could explain this?

and since most of todays sheeptaggers haven't tried dota -> What would you say the chances are that you would prefer ST over Dota (after a few weeks of learning dota), given the rate of conversion we've seen so far?

@Beer

you complained that dota didn't have a ranked system before. they implemented that months ago. what are your current thoughts on dota?

1. +1 dota
2. skill required for dota and sheep tag are the same.
3.dota has better scenery and smooth triggers, etc. +1 dota
4.sheep tag is virtually impossible to master. since sheep tag is in basically, "the void" compared to dota, there will only be the great players and the average ones. sheep tag hasn't had enough exposure and enthusiasm to be considered a game to master.
5. quantity doesn't increase quality.
6.because you ditched sheep tag. it wasn't because dota was so much better, but because sheep tag must have been too bad for you.
7. both sheep tag and dota require the same level of intelligence to master.
8. both sheep tag and dota require high APM, and therefore once you hit a time where you don't have time to stop and think about things then you can assume both games can be equally fun.

I already explained that phenomenon. The sheep tag community, and the game, wasn't good enough for you, and dota and it's community was. The same goes for every other person who chose dota over sheep tag. It isn't the game nor communities fault you all left.

amir, you already found the conversion rate of sheep taggers to dota, which is like 99%. I completely believe if all of us mastered the basics of dota to further continue a dota career that we, the Sheep tag community, would fully convert to dota, but we choose to stay and play sheep tag.

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