Sheep Tag Community

Lol its not gonne be my vision, besides mass people will probably boycott it just because of the name. But yeah its your choice.

Lol, the guy in red CMK-haircut. ^^

But yeah this is just 100 % fake?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBFTB7Xjk3U

Report abuse by CsB in this thread.

Today I hosted game, mass people came in total we were 9. Polar was one of them, apperently he had just joined to ruin. He squelch me (or del my admin I dont know which yet) with bot, take over as owner. Pab forcestarts game without asking anyone, Polar goes afk instantly. Me and Baiten does the same and what could have been a 5v5 or a full game turned into a 2v4. And sure, 2v4 are nice. But I want other games aswell, and its not going to happend if this abuse continues. Also its a disaster if we allow people to act the way Polar does. It desencourage people from hosting and joining games.

I havent mentioned US West. Dont know why you bring it up. But since you have statistics on how many peoples use each server, mind sharing it with the rest of us Chakra?

Exacly this ("From what I know, StH never really held long term bans but rather banned on a somewhat arbitrary (...) basis" is what made the abuse systematic. Chief, shamans, hostbotadmins and so on were allowed to kick, ban and mute people without any reason. The cover was that it was "jokes" and showed you had humor. This became the natural order in US East that people were forced to accept.

There is no such natural order yet in Europe, no specific reason to which a chief, shaman, host, etc can refer to to legitimize any kick/ban/mute. Infact the only such order we have had is Whis during Exalius hostbotmonopoly. Back then the shamans, the people with access to his bot and ofcourse Exalius himself could legitimize any action with the "lick or kick system". Anything you said could be used as a motive for a kick/ban/mure.

Both these sweepreasons, intentionally or not, had the effect of creating an order based on this abuse.  A flames B, but if B flames A he get kicked. People have unequal rights and this often leads to terrible consequences for the individual. And in the long run the community since these individuals often becomes increasingly isolated and frustrated, and eventually leave the community completley.

In CsB its not that clear yet, the abuse is still considered abuse. It isnt covered with "its just a joke", "in this clan we use a lick or kick system" or something similar. And hopefully it will never be. But we do know shamans and hostbotadmins are allowed to abuse without any consequences from CMK. The only thing that stops a completley systematic abuse like the once we saw in StH and Whis is because CsB is so small proportionally compared to those two. If CsB was as big as StH (in terms of proportions of influential players in the server) the abuse would probably be worse yes.

Luckily most people have never been in, have left or are leaving CsB. The people who chose to stay enables the abuse and are responsibile if it develops into a complete systematic abuse like the ones we saw in StH and Whis. With todays playerbasis and the frequency of the abuse we see in CsB (much higher than StH ofcourse) it will likley lead to the end of Sheep Tag. But as long as people chose to not accept it, and leave CsB if you are still a member, we have nothing to fear. There are plenty of other clans to go around.

Just dont remain indifferent and think for yourself. Do you believe in equal rights or in abuse? The choice is yours. The real problem isnt the actual bans/kicks/mute. It is knowing that certain people are allowed to use them as tools in any situation without any consequences.

Lol? Who have I backstabbed/betrayed? Name one person and explain how. In opposite of most people in this community I have a completley clean trackrecord when it comes to that. The fact that you bring such accusations just show how disgustingly easy it is to brainwash you. Before it was drew, now its Exalius you follow blindly.

How am I in anywhere NEAR the abuserate of people like yourself, drew, Exalius, polar, Pab and so on?

No ST isnt dead on US East because of StH, its dead because other players accepted what you did in StH. It became the natural order that it was okey to kick/ban people for fun. To not allow flames against certain persons and essentially to let people have power with no accountability. That have never been the case in Europe. The few times we have had actual systematic abuse is Whis and now CsB. Whis was taken down eventually and now CsB will share the same destiny.

And I can only repeat this, no StH wasnt the reason US East died. People sharing your attitude was. "Clans just fight, its better to not be in any/it doesnt matter which Im in." THIS is the attitude that allows abuse. Sit down and think about what you think is right and wrong. Figure it out for yourself. Dont just accept what people say and do because they are in power. Question them. Find out their reasons. Be critical. Your attitude matters. This have been the ideology of Europe while the opposite have been true for US East. If we oversimplify things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E3TEb80ih8&feature=youtu.be

You also forgot this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4s2lMPTXUY