Author Topic: New item idea (Read 461 times)

HaWkys · « **on:** November 09, 2013, 10:18:29 pm »

I am not good at explaining so ill show you.

Event - Generic unit uses an item

Condition - Item being used = Transport to middle

Action( in order) -
-Message to all: A wolf has used "transport to middle" and will be moved in 5 seconds.
-Wait 6 seconds (i know i said 5 seconds but the timing for wc3 isn't exact.)
-move triggering unit (instantly) to middle of "pen region"

There are many methods / ways to do this ability, you could also have a freeze action like they do in freezetag for the 5 seconds and then do the unfreeze when the wolf gets to middle but i don't see a point to it. This allows more steady game play, there have been A LOT of instances where there is 1 sheep left and one wolf makes a mistake and slips up and lets there side go and sheep runs to middle and saves all. While i like the underdog idea i think it would add to the sheeps team work as they would have to work together to save a wisp. It is just an idea.

Map · « **Reply #1 on:** November 09, 2013, 10:27:16 pm »

I do not support this item since it makes the gameplay of the shepherds much easier. Your example with one sheep left and saving all wisps is a bad one since he should be rewarded for escaping.

HaWkys · « **Reply #2 on:** November 09, 2013, 10:40:36 pm »

So u think it is fair if we have 5 really good wolves and 1 shitty wolf, they kill all but 1 sheep within 2 min. They iso the last sheep, but that 1 bad wolf slips up and the sheep saves all his teammates, then the sheep team survive and mass until the 20 min is up. Idk about u mappy but that would **** me off. 6 one mississippi's are more than enough time to save a wisp

Chakra · « **Reply #3 on:** November 09, 2013, 11:17:36 pm »

WC3 timing is accurate down to a millisecond, lol... Just don't use waits, use timers.

HaWkys · « **Reply #4 on:** November 09, 2013, 11:42:39 pm »

Are you sure chakra? A very experienced map maker told me the timing is off O.o and yes u could use timers to but its the same thing in my eyes

RoguexRanger · « **Reply #5 on:** November 09, 2013, 11:46:43 pm »

ICWYDT Hawkys. Now you get off the hook for failing mid.

Chakra · « **Reply #6 on:** November 10, 2013, 01:36:31 am »

I am very sure timers have millisecond precision. Waits, specifically TriggerSleepAction, has ~17ms precision, but can sometimes bug out so it's advised to never use them.

Timers are very much not the same thing as waits.

HaWkys · « **Reply #7 on:** November 10, 2013, 02:19:18 am »

but do they not do the same thing?

VsKatshuma · « **Reply #8 on:** November 10, 2013, 10:24:07 am »

Putting the trigger on hold for 5-6 seconds before finishing what it does creates opportunities for it to glitch and is not considered professional.

Timers are more reliable, more accurate and offer more control over what happens after the wait is over while also being able to run other actions related to the same trigger when the timer is ticking down.

As Chakra said, they are very much not the same.

Also, I think this idea is cool but the item would have to be very expensive. I'm saying like more expensive than 2 golems and a cloak expensive. The ability to reach mid even if its completely blocked off by farms when an iso happens late into the game could be very game-breaking.

Map · « **Reply #9 on:** November 10, 2013, 01:13:13 pm »

If we add this item we need to give the sheep a stun ability so they can deny the TP.

Shyamora[SkS] · « **Reply #10 on:** November 10, 2013, 03:48:14 pm »

Hah, what mappy suggests could be really fun. Wolves themselves cannot cancel the spellcasting, but sheep have 0.1 sec stun ability at 140 range or smth.. Could be a hell of a lot of fun ^^

Celestial_One · « **Reply #11 on:** November 10, 2013, 04:38:54 pm »

The teleporter idea has been brought up and shot down everytime. Reason:

If shepherds aren't covering their cuts back to middle, and sheep are being diligent about filling in cuts, then sheep deserve free saves. Why give shepherds any freebies?

HaWkys · « **Reply #12 on:** November 10, 2013, 05:49:35 pm »

Well although it is considered "unprofessional" i have used waits for a long time and have NEVER experienced any kind of glitch or malfunction. I was simply just throwing the item idea out there, the price and stock max would be up to the person that's doing it.

Cele lets consider the following scenario: its 10 minutes in and the map is almost completely filled up (including mid) and the wolf team gets a break and kills 1 sheep, but the middle is surrounded by farms. I think the move instantly item would help wolves hold mid, that being said i would agree it would help the wolves, but then we could remove irons from the game so there is no camping = greater odds for sheep if iron was removed and tele. was put it in

baiten92 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 11, 2013, 09:18:42 pm »

Could be fun, but as mappy said we need something to cancel the casting time if we want to do huge pro sheepens tacticens !

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